{"id":988,"date":"2010-10-29T11:00:24","date_gmt":"2010-10-29T15:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"?page_id=988"},"modified":"2015-12-21T19:12:32","modified_gmt":"2015-12-22T00:12:32","slug":"teslas-flying-stove-pg2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.fuel-efficient-vehicles.org\/energy-news\/?page_id=988","title":{"rendered":"Tesla’s flying machine, 2"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Tesla’s Flying Machine <\/i>
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“Tesla’s Flying Stove” <\/i> <\/h3>\n

“Not the airplane, the flying machine,” responded Dr. Tesla. <\/i>
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\n This wood frame etc. was my 1st attempt at building the machine
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\n A few weeks later, I traded these motors for 10,000 rpm 1\/5hp motors.\n<\/div>\n

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\n Sept.12th, 1992\n<\/div>\n

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Second Tesla Space Drive <\/i> Design <\/b>
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Third model, with 10,000 rpm ele. motors <\/b><\/p>\n

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The only expensive parts are the motors, (aluminum) pillow blocks, and mitre gears.
\n The pillow blocks, and mitre gears, combined, totalled $138.44. About a 2 foot square sheet of aluminum was less than $10. The shafts are also aluminum and cheap.<\/p>\n

The shafts and pillow blocks are also, now, aluminum alloy. This model was fine but, the frame was just a little flimsy.
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Note: I used the red\/orange (Lovejoy) jaw couplings because they were a cheap easy way to attach weights on a shaft. I just replaced the set-screws with bolts. For a good close-up, click on the photo above (the 3 photos) to see an enlargement. <\/p>\n

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Experimenting out in the back yard, 1993 <\/b><\/p>\n


\n here I and a friend discovered the frame flexed a little<\/p>\n

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Final design: January 1994 <\/b>
\n using .090 inch aircraft aluminum ($9)
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I made the frame taller to accommodate longer arms and, slower speed requirements but, that was not necessary. However, there is an increased strength and reduced stress benefit to the double arms. <\/p>\n

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photographed on Fri., March 24th, 2006 <\/b>
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Oct. 20th, 2007: <\/b>
\n A few weeks ago +\/- I tried it without any crossbars but, the weight and inertia were still too much for the motors. we got maybe 200 rpm but, we need maybe 600 to 800 rpm?   I think the air pump where I am trying it, is not as strong as the one I used in Phoenix.<\/p>\n

Nov. 2007: <\/b><\/p>\n

I bought 2.5″ bolts and 1.5″ bolts so I have 2 more options. If the 2.5″ does not reduce the weight and inertia enough to enable the motors to get up some significant speed, I can try the 1.5″ bolts.<\/p>\n

Cutting the length, and weight, in about half (from 4.75″ to 2.5″ bolts) reduces our net radius from about .1″ to about .025″ and our needed speed from about 600+ rpm to about 1200 rpm. Although it was an improvement, It just was not enough improvement and we switched to the 1.5 inchers. (see “December 2007” photo below) We started it up and the speed finally seemed significantly improved. A mechanic said it looked like it was going about 5 or 6,000 rpm. Great! Finally! Still, nothing more happened and we turned it off.<\/p>\n

(we have no way of confirming how fast it was going – I think maybe only 1 or 2,000 rpm)<\/p>\n

December 2007 <\/b><\/p>\n

Afterwards, I realized several potential problems. (1. The force may have been exerted downward instead of up (we need to try turning it upside down) and, (2. the 2 air hoses were adding weight to the system, holding it down. We need to prop the hoses up so that they do not add weight to the system.<\/p>\n


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Jan. 30th 2008: <\/b><\/p>\n

We tried it again, right side up and upside down. We held up the 2 air hoses. But, no movement, no lift. It may be that we need 3-4000 rpm but are only getting 1 or 2000.
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June 30th 2008 <\/b> <\/p>\n

If we got several thousand rpm, enough(?), then, it didn’t work. If not, then either a further reduction in the mass and inertia <\/b> of the rotating weights and \/ or a change to stronger motors is needed.<\/p>\n

Hopefully, we can get a sufficient speed increase by further reducing the weights & inertia. If not that, then by getting the weight of the motors off the frame by using couplers to extend the 2 shafts out beyond the frame. <\/p>\n

March, 2009 <\/b><\/p>\n

I started getting calls from a TV production co. in Calif. wanting to put my flying machine on a Discovery Channel special. <\/p>\n

I stopped at the auto shop, told them about it. They told me that they have gotten a new, stronger, compressor. Now is the time to try again!<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

Saturday, March 21st, 2009 <\/b><\/p>\n

Saturday was a disappointment. The new compressor provided significantly more power than the old one. The speed was much improved, very impressive, “more than enough”. This time I do think it was up to 3 or 4000 rpm, if not more. However, the weather was bad, raining, and I only did half the test. Still, it did not move. There was plenty of speed in the rotating masses. So, either I had it upside down, 50-50 chance of that being true, since it is totally symmetrical, or there is some stumbling block, some criteria I have not thought of. <\/p>\n

Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009, 9am <\/b><\/p>\n

Tried it again. The speed, again, seemed enough. But, again, I can’t be sure, and it did not go up. <\/p>\n

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2011, Footnote: <\/b><\/p>\n

A frame is cheap, a person can design and build one around motors they come up with, the smaller the better, perhaps. Smaller motors can generally run at higher speeds. Extension rods, longer rods, can be used to get the motors off the system, and that will reduce the total weight greatly. <\/p>\n

Here is one Marcelo B. built. Glad to hear from him.<\/p>\n

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