MYT Engine

Updated on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 in Technical Innovations

NASA Winner: Massive Yet Tiny (MYT) Engine design

updated June 30th. 2010 : 6" prototype progress still unknown.

"A 25 lb, 7 inch, MYT engine should give 200 hp at 150 mpg of biofuel, (up to 500 hp with super or turbo charging) and the biofuel, or diesel fuel, also is the lubricant, no oil needed."

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Raphial Morgado receives First-Prize in the 2005 Emhart-NASA Tech Briefs "Create the Future" Design Contest
3 April 2006 MYT engine

First-Prize winner is Raphial Morgado of Angel Labs (Acampo/Lodi, CA) for his Massive Yet Tiny (MYT) Engine design. The first prototype model of this internal combustion engine exerts 850 cubic inches of displacement even though the size of the engine is only 14" in diameter and 14" long, and weighs 150 pounds. The level of displacement is achieved through frequent firing -- it fires 16 times on one rotation, making it equivalent to a 32-cylinder, four-stroke engine.

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"With a ten million dollar loan, we can launch our pilot production facility and another industrial revolution, ..."

Unfortunately, 2007-2008, was spent building new facilities, nothing was happening. Still no working prototypes.

850 cubic inches, 815 lb ft of torque at 800 rpm

Dynamometer Data

The prototype engine was approx. 14" x 14" with an 850 cubit-inch displacement. It generated 814 foot-pounds of torque at 800 RPM with 124 HP.

Finally, in 2009, progress has been announced. (see below)

 


 

Tim Ventura & Raphial Morgado, May 11th, 2006

click image for full 8 pg. story.

The engine is highly scalable - it's easy to adapt for both very large and very small applications. For instance, we performed a design-study for Exxon-Mobile to replace the 5-story tall diesel engines used on supertankers with the MYT, and replacement design we proposed to them measured only 5 feet in diameter and 7 feet long. This wasn’t even as large as a single piston in the original engine!

In terms of downscaling the design, we can still produce high-output small-scale engines for UAV's or even microgenerators for consumer electronics. These require a high power to weight ratio at a small size, and we can build them as small as 1⁄2 inch in diameter to power all sorts of consumer mobile-power applications.

The MYT engine only has 15 moving components, and the RPM can be set higher because there aren't any reciprocating parts or cylinder heads with valves prone to "valve float". The MYT doesn't have valves, lifters, or a camshaft.

With 32 pulses per cycle and approx 3,000 foot-pounds of torque, the fuel consumption is expected to be 3 to 6 times less because of lower friction and longer piston duration at Top Dead-Center (TDC), which lets us extract lot more energy from every gallon of fuel that we burn.

At Top Dead-Center (TDC), a standard internal combustion engine has zero degrees of duration - in other words, the piston is always either approaching TDC or leaving it, but it doesn’t ever remain there. In comparison, the MYT Engine has a carry-over of 12 degrees at TDC due to the 2 crankshafts' duration at the timing events.                             Above: MYT Engine visualization demo


Biography of Raphial Morgado

from A Win for the Little Guy Over Detroit's Big Boys
by Jeane Manning

Raphial was born in Hilo, Hawaii. His parents had met during the Second World War when his father was stationed in the Philippines. The family moved back there when Raphial was seven, and he lived there until he was 19 years old. Since his father was shop superintendent for a large bus company which built its own buses, oldest son Raphial could hang around any part of the shop. He learned how to overhaul a diesel, fix a fuel injection system, do metal work, and operate a broad range of other equipment. Mechanically inclined and possessing the ability to draw plans, he always had a project underway.

As with many gifted children, young Raphial’s quick mind often landed him in trouble at school. Science teachers in the Catholic school he attended kicked him out of the classroom and sent him off to be punished because he wouldn’t stop asking questions that they couldn’t answer.

Too often such stories end sadly with the gifted child being mistreated, quitting school, and becoming cynical and even embittered. Raphial, however, was lucky. When a frustrated teacher would send him to the principal’s office, he received soothing advice from the priest in charge. Father Gabriel said, “I know you’re a special kid, just like your father has special wisdom. God gave you gifts. But be more careful with your teacher; don’t ask all those questions.” Instead of a whipping with a stick, the boy received understanding, validation, and some chore to do in the principal’s office.

Later, a chaplain in the Armed Forces was the source of advice which Morgado remembered when he got out of the service. “Get busy or go crazy.” For the next two years Morgado was a sheet-metal worker and pursued his hobby of drag racing in off-work time. Drag racing is hard on engines, and he tired of engine after engine blowing up; so he worked on improving them in whatever spare time was left.

One day he realized, “My garage is full of projects. How did this happen?” His expertise with engines had led race car owners to ask for his help; and eventually, the demand for his services caused him to quit the day job and go into business as a mechanic. While servicing expensive cars, he made house calls even at night, and met clients who became personal friends. Jim Givens, for instance, was still in law school when he hired Morgado to work on his Mercedes. Givens introduced Morgado to patent attorneys, gave him valuable advice, and has been with Angel Labs from its beginnings to the present.

He had long ago decided that no matter how exciting the idea seemed, he wouldn’t develop any invention unless there’s a market for it. The new engine concept arose out of the need to redesign racing engines. In a flash of insight and twenty-minutes time, one day he drew the toroidal (donut) shapes and how the new piston arrangement would work. There would be no need for valves. Perfecting the design for the timing mechanisms, however, took two years.

Morgado had been earning the level of income that later allowed him to develop the air driven "demonstrator" of a paradigm-changing invention independently. He bought a five-acre ranch including buildings that he filled with expensive expensive tools and equipment for a production line. After he spent his own money, funding came from family and friends and then friends of friends.

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Jeane Manning’s new co-authored book, Breakthrough Power: How Quantum-leap New Energy Inventions Can Transform Our World, is available at or through the Atlantis Rising catalog. Her blog is at www.JeaneManning.com.

Raphial Morgado at San Jose State University

 

On April 2nd, Raphial Morgado, along with Jeane Manning, Joel Garbon, and Sterling Allan, gave a presentation to some students at San Jose State University.

 

NOTE: IF ANY OF THESE DEMOS (videos) DO NOT SHOW UP, HIT REFRESH, AND THEY WILL.

Mighty Yet Tiny Demo (1) by Raphial Morgado


Mighty Yet Tiny Demo (2) by Raphial Morgado


Mighty Yet Tiny Demo (3) by Raphial Morgado


Mighty Yet Tiny Demo (4) by Raphial Morgado


Mighty Yet Tiny Demo (5) by Raphial Morgado

 

see   all videos of MYT


Building a 5.5 6-inch Prototype

MYT engine to be demonstrated to Society of Automotive Engineers International (SAE)

Nov 18, 2009
Guest Speaker at Oregon SAE March 20, 2010
April 8th. May 15th. 2010 CANCELLED, April 20th
"The date has been indefinitely deferred - till a prototype is built and running."

The inventor, Raphial Morgado, had been invited by the Oregon Section of the Society of Automotive Engineers International (SAE) to be the guest speaker at their annual event in Portland on March 20, 2010 from 12-2 pm.

Due to a two month delay in getting the gears for the small motors, Morgado was set back in his time frame; and rather than reschedule the SAE Oregon event again, SAE opted to cancel it for now, with the possibility of scheduling something again in the future, once everything is running and ready to go.


April 8th. 2010

"As the 5.5" MYT was being fitted with the timing gears, it became apparent that the gears were getting too small and that strength might be a factor. . . . we decided to play it safe and grow the engine up to 6", adding more material not only to the timing gears but also for the remaining internal parts for added strength." - Morgado

Scrambling to get his 6" (inch) version of his massive yet tiny (MYT) engine ready to demonstrate to the Oregon Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) annual meeting (re-)scheduled for May 15, Raphial Morgado discovered that he can make a 6-inch motor using regular machining processes, so he will not have to go to the expense of creating a casting: "very expensive to gear up for". In normal, mass production, of engines, a block is cast in order to be more affordable. He still believes the larger motors will require casting; but now he has a version he can quickly build into a prototype.

The first 6 inch prototype

Morgado said he was amazed that the way they are building the 6" MYT in a one-off process, is actually more practical and cheaper, than the more extensive multiple operations that casting requires. Furthermore, Morgado notes that casting is not as strong as machining from a solid billet.

He still thinks the larger engines will still require the establishment of a pilot production line using casting.

Another unintended advantage that has emerged is that the various relationships that Angel Labs has established in the process of building the 6" motor, can work toward going into initial production.

Morgado concludes saying: "By the time you see a complete 6" MYT running on fuel, it means that we are in fact successful not only in building the 6" MYT Engine, but more importantly, we are in manufacturing mode without further need of the 10 million dollars [we had thought would be] required to set up a pilot production line."


[ The unfortunate reality is that he is still in a learning, "discovery", mode. He is discovering that he is not a mechanical engineer. He does not know the strength limits of the parts he has specified in his design(s) (namely his gears!) Hopefully he will learn, before he makes any more serious mistakes like that, the importance of building his prototype and "getting the bugs out" before going into production, before it is too late - and his mistakes "burn" his investors.

It is now mid July 2010 and there is still no news. Shall we guess that he is still discovering more parts that he has not sized correctly for the load(s) they will be bearing and having to re-design "the whole thing" again (!) to accommodate the now even greater loads of the newer-larger design?! ]

There appear to be some significant issues that could stand between it and mass production, however. First, forming the toroidal "cylinder" doesn't look to be a trivial task, as the toroid must be split in two. Getting the two halves to form a perfect circular cross-section would seem to be quite a feat. There's also the issue of producing the indexed motion of the two piston pairs, which is certainly not a straightforward affair. Combine this with the claimed output torque of over 800 ft-lbs., and we see a potential durability problem.

The size of the engine also yields its own problem, in that there does not appear to be sufficient material to support the type of output that the inventor claims. There are good reasons that every other engine appears monstrous in comparison to the MYT, and we don't think it's because current engine designers lack an understanding of material characteristics. It's not just important to understand the ultimate strength of the material and construction something to withstand a single cycle, but fatigue must also be accounted for in any design that's expected to withstand literally billions of cycles. While there are several high-strength materials that may be able to provide adequate strength, they are typically not used in internal-combustion applications. Then there's the matter of lubrication and cooling, both of which seem problematic given the "cylinder" configuration.

None of this commentary is intended to disparage the work that Raphial Morgado and his team have put into this engine, of course. We here at Autoblog prefer to take an optimistic view of the internal combustion engine's future. Certainly, we'll all benefit if indeed Morgado can make his invention work in a cost-effective manner that allows it to be brought to market.

Posted on rexresearch.com Apr 24th 2006 10:57AM by Eric Bryant, Autoblog.com

A blogger, on another blog, mentioned "sand casting". Everyone should go to Raphial's web site and tell him and his "people"
Ray says:
Try using sand casting. At the Ohio State Fair, several years ago,there was a sand casting demo. The demonstrator invited any one to bring him an object to sand cast.

I remembered a 3 or 4 inch skillet and that it was my mother in law's birthday. I went home, got the skillet, added raised lettering, saying 'happy birthday'. Took it back to the fair, for sand casting. The demonstrator cast an exact replica, make of cast aluminum, showing the added 'happy birthday'. I was able to give her a solid aluminum skillet and birthday greeting in one.

This should work for other metals, as well. It would certainly be worth checking out. Casting sand is relatively cheap compared to the alternatives. Good Luck.
April 9, 1:23 PM

Raphial RG. Morgado, Inventor, Co-founder
Jin K. Kim, Co-founder
Location:
24332 N Watkinson Rd
Acampo CA 95220

see his web site at www . Angel Labs . com

 

  1. Johnny Bell says:

    The engine will not work because it is not sealed, the pistons do not have full rings on them and air leakage will lower the compression ratio too far.


    Won't you be surprised!

  2. gran says:

    The design is interesting. You might be able to run one at the hoped for power levels with materials technology from 50 years in the future. For now, it would have to be run at a small fraction of the advertised power output to have any reasonable longevity. Of course, better materials technology would benefit all other engine designs as well.

    The engine still has a substantial amount of reciprocating mass. Starting and stopping vs. changing direction is all relative.

    The timing mechanism is clever, but is fairly complex for something that has to transmit so much torque. Simple, massive parts are better for things that are heavily loaded.

  3. Rich says:

    I've been thinking about HHO and it's practical application for a few years now- not to use it in addition to gasoline or diesel, but to use on its own. The efficiency of HHO requires higher compression, and valve timing has been a huge problem for those trying to use HHO as an independant fuel. Also, producing enough HHO on demand to foil the need for compressed, stored (and dangerously explosive) large quantities of HHO. Your motor could produce enough torque with enough fuel efficiency to produce HHO on demand and feed itself with nothing but HHO made from water as needed. I truly believe your motor is the future of all our fuel and transportation needs. I pray for your safety, in the hopes you do not meet an untimely end like Stan Meyer did. Those who would keep us down so they can stay up on top will do anything to hold on to their $. Keep up the good fight. I wish I could help. Good luck and God bless you. Actually, I think he already has.

  4. Blakley West says:

    Love the idea, keep up the good work, I can see how this engine could be made to run off several different fuels, possibly at the same time by a flip of the switch, Brown's gas (hho) with maybe a combo of bioDiesel or a combination of any such fuel sources, I admire your efforts and pray that one day [your] engine is retrofited in many vehicles or other applications. I would gladly leave my comfortable beach life here in South Carolina to move to Acampo CA, and help any anyway i can to further your project(s). Best of wishes.


    He does speak of using bioDiesel and we agree that HHO or gasoline fumes would be even better: see all our super carburetor pages, especially John Weston who was running his car on fumes only a few years ago . . . !

  5. David says:

    Why demonstrate it with air pressure? Doesn't lend to proving your claims.
    I've seen plenty of prototypes work in a shop or lab and not make it to mass production due to practical issues in the real world and I mean mechanical issues.
    Beurocramps are always going to fight improvements over conventional piston slappers but don't give up the fight! I admire your tenacity.
    But please, run the thing on fuel as an ENGINE, not some lame air motor! You're shooting yourself in the foot and that's just what the big boys want!
    Thanks and best of luck!
    David


    good advice over a year ago. Today, he is building a prototype - thanks to Oregon SAE.
    - And learning that a person cannot scale mechanical things by dividing or multiplying everything by some number - despite his "confidence" in doing so. As he admitted: "it became apparent that the gears were getting too small"

  6. Joel H. says:

    Watching the videos can show us that there are technologies that are awaiting only production.
    The USA can benefit but our own elected officials get in the way. I would suggest to Mr. Morgado, that IF the American bureaucrats do not want it, take it somewhere else. To every American I say, pressure your elected Senator, Representative and State legislator to CHANGE, as President Obama says, else they get the boot on the next election.
    WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, have the power to boot them out. They press us for more taxes, we press them for new technologies that will benefit us as well.
    I am willing to buy an engine as soon as it hits the market. Push forward, press your local politician and be ready to buy one. SEMPER FI!

  7. Philip Bennett says:

    Back in 2006 Eric Bryant's post raised questions about lubrication and cooling. Diesel fuel does have some lubricant properties, but pistons and toroidal cylinder would need some type of exotic coating application. If machining MYT is such a problem, design it with square pistons and cylinder with small radius on all corners. The cylinder bore would be like a large raceway of a high speed roller bearing. This would further increase the power to weight/size ratio.

  8. G. Dela Pena says:

    I will defenitely buy this to power my house and not thru the commercial power.

  9. Tenedas says:

    I also can't wait to see this, I will buy at least one immediately to put into my dune buggy for sure.

    Your dune buggy may be the perfect fit (and motorcycles?) for his 6" prototype, the first to be built! -ed

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  11. tamio says:

    This is a true American Invention that needs public funding or a private donation to help this dream come true. We need it now!!!! It will take this country out of this recession, will create so many jobs, and will help our world with less pollution.

  12. Andrew Child says:

    I have been keeping my eye on this for years, and am extremely excited to see it happen. Yes big oil will not like it; I'm pretty sure that's why he refuses to sell the idea, to see it shelved. I'm sure as with any other world changing idea there will be ups and downs associated with it that need to be addresses; however, if we let this fall through the cracks it will be a terrible loss.

    I tell everyone I know, show them the animations of operation ( ["MYT Engine" : 1st Youtube video above -editor] ) that is simple enough for everyone to understand, and get behind. And last of all thank you to everyone on this site for not being foolish about your understanding, this is a great idea which may work. Lets not be like all the doubting majority and just ridicule that which we cannot understand, but help the idea grow.

  13. EDWIN says:

    I have been a "mechanic" for 60 years (enough said).
    HOW CAN I INVEST ????

  14. Tom says:

    My comment on this one is simple. TELL EVERYONE. Share the link, spread the word. Create the demand. WE can do it.

  15. James says:

    If this engine doesn't get through, anyone who uses the internal combustion engine for transportation of anything is going under. Gas guzzlers are dead as a dodo. The price of oil will see to that. Surely upgrading the IC engine is better than seeing your entire system cave in.

    The U.S.A has built itself on the motor car, unless it evolves it will perish. Even big oil must understand that their home market will perish if efficiency is not introduced.

    If you couple this with algae/hemp biofuel, locally produced, and some natural gas, the U.S would be in such a fantastic position with regards to transportation. I hope it gets there.

    All the best

    James

  16. enthusiast says:

    I'm 19 years old, and even I see the potential of this engine. I've looked for new news and read some forums, most of which seem to have a general consensus of how it could never happen. I strongly disagree.

    The forums have made one point, however, that I can't figure a refute for and that Raphial has failed to address in everything I can find: With that much torque, how is the engine's output shaft so small and still able to stay together?

    If that is their only compliant, they should take every last penny they can dig up and invest it in his co. Anyone who does is destined to make a fortune! -editor

  17. craig says:

    I will buy one as soon as it becomes available.

    Won't we all! Go to his web site and tell him. -editor

  18. Tyson Coote says:

    I feel out in the world there are many people with no knowledge of engines or even much time to think of how they could do their part to help save the world or turn back the tide on climate change.
    But even if we get this idea to the masses, get people to just take 5 minutes to look, everyone would get behind angellabs and the myt engine would take off . . . lets show our support people!

  19. Paul Yak says:

    I hope we DON'T See the same thing happen that we did with the Orbital 2 stroke engine. It was bought by Ford and shelved. I have Never heard of an Orbital 2 stroke getting fitted in a vehicle/motorcycle since Ford buried it.

    See how the inventor is finding it difficult to loan $10Million, You'd think the big car makers would be beating his door down to be the first to install this in their cars.

    Don't think the Oil Corps, will be amused either. 400HP and 800ft/lb torque from a 150lb engine instead of 800-1,000lb standard diesel engine of this sort of power. Big problem is that it will be so fuel efficient, this makes you a target for the Oil Co's as they lose Billions per Year to an amazing idea like this. Billions for rotting tree' and vegetation mmmmmmm.

  20. tamio says:

    I'm praying to see Ur invention come true, love to see it and use it ,I believe it will change the world, Hope president Obama could help U to do some kind of incentive or grant u a special loan to acomplish Ur dream , please dont give up

  21. Alan Stennett says:

    Wonderful idea. The MYT engine like Henry Ford's Mod.T should be able to run on alcohol,hydrogen,diesel,made from any organic material. Just keep big oil away from this one. Our country needs this one badly.

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